Consiglio della Democrazia Partecipativa - Aggiornamenti e Prossimi Passi

Ciao a tutti, 
Abbiamo finalmente fatto la riunione con ECIT e The Good Lobby (e parlato con European Alternatives) per portare avanti quanto discusso anche in coordinamento riguarda al filone riforme della democrazia partecipativa. 

Metto qui il riassunto per tutti. 

Our organisations share a mutual interest in the reinforcement of participatory democracy - as a way to strengthen the European Union and as a fundamental completion of representative democracy. 
The Conference on the Future of Europe offers an opportunity to add Participatory Democracy to the central topics of the Conference on the Future of Europe. 

There are two political goals to be achieved: 
- Knowledge: ALL European citizens should know about their participatory democracy rights (starting from the possibility to support European Citizens Initiatives, to all the other tools available)
- Reforms of the existing instruments and creations of new instruments (to mention one for all, Citizens' Asemblies based on sortition) 

The proposal to be discussed is to organise a Committee among our organisations, other organisations and individual citizens (i.e. a Council of Participatory Democracy) that can push politically for these two goals. 

We could envision two main appointments: 

1- An event in Bruxelles around the 15th of March titled "First Council on Participatory Democracy" where invite experts, academics, representatives of organizations, citizens that are currently engaged in European Citizens Initiatives and other forms of Participatory Democracy, ...and discuss a plan for the European Union and the activation of a shared mobilisation. 

2- A shared action in Dubrovnik on the 8th of May to officially present the proposals we will agree on at the beginning of the Conference on the Future of Europe. The conception of such an action can be the output of the March event 

Current initiatives on the topic from the different organisations: 

- Draft of a working document to become a Petition the European Parliament on information about participatory democracy (funding and direct communication to the citizens - equal dignity between participatory democracy and representative democracy) - Doc attached + previous initiative "Letter to Commissioner Jourova" involving other promoters of European Citizens Initiatives 
- Draft of a petition to the European Parliament to include a system of Sortition based Citizens' Assembly in the Conference on the Future of Europe 

The Good Lobby 
- Toolkit for citizens' activation (Italy) / promotion of the European Toolkit
- Network of citizens using participatory democracy 

- Connections with youth organisations working with different forms of citizens' assemblies 
- network on European citizenship (experts, and organisations) 

Next steps: 

- Meeting to keep on discussing this project and share feedback based also on our internal processes.
Potential Dates: Wednesdy 12th of February at 5 pm / Thursday 13th of February at 5 pm 

- Inviting other organisations to join the meeting (it would be great if we can share a list of the organisations that each one of us might want to invite in advance so that we are all aware and we don't overlap) 


Ciao a tutti, 

Condivido qui gli appunti della riunione di settimana scorsa con ECIT, Good Lobby, CAL, European Alternatives per elaborare sull'idea del 1st Meeting of the Council for Participatory Democracy. 

Stiamo aspettando la loro revisione prima di annunci ufficiali. Ma vale la pena iniziare a ragionare e inserire nel percorso che stiamo facendo. (da tenere connesso con questo filone con i promotori di ICE , il cantiere aperto sulla Conferenza sul Futuro dell"Europa e il Progetto Petizioni


The 1st Meeting of the Council of Participatory Democracy - draft invite and dates 

Possible dates: Thursday, 19th (afternoon) and Friday, 20th of March (morning) 

As per our conclusions, I drafted a "light convocation" that we can use to start and work on: 
- to shape the program 
- invite other organisations 

- organise the event 

You can review it here

[If you create an account on Framapad you can collaborate on the doc using your specific nickname, for better tracking] 

I stuck to what we agreed upon:
- a tripartite agenda;
- this meeting as the first session in Bruxelles but with the goal of organising more sessions in other EU cities (ideally attaching it to fundraising activities) 
- a format to start and collect feedback and inputs also from other individuals and organisations - the ultimate goal is to create a space of collaboration and coordination and not just the n platform 

Next steps and decision to make: 

  •  If all of you can review the invite we can then start and defining a strategy and operation to promote the open meeting and invite other organisations [can you have a look at it before tomorrow end of the day? I swear is very short :)  So that we can have 1 precise month to work on it] 
  • In the next meetings I suggest we discuss the program, the format and the approach to the different sessions
  • Weekly meetings: do you confirm me it would you be fine for all of you to have a weekly public meeting from now on on Thursdays to keep the rhythm on the common political analysis and the organisation of the event?  I suggest we do it every Thursdays from 6.00 pm to 7.00 pm so that it can fit both those activists who have another full-time job and those who don't want to leave the office to late :) - We could record the meetings and make them available on the YouTube Channels (Eumans account is available for this), so that citizens and organisations can follow the debate and potentially join more easily. 
  • Let me know if you all want to be in this mailing list or if you prefer to identify a person per organisation to stay in the loop so that we work more smoothly


Looking forward to hearing your feedback, via framapad or via email! 

Ciao a tutti - in basso trovate una serie di spunti utili per un dibattito politico in vista del 1° meeting del Council on Participatory Democracy, ovviamente aperto alle vostre idee as well. 




SESSION 1: The mandate of the Conference on the future of Europe and the role of the citizens in shaping the Conference process.

A) What kind of mandate do we want for the CoFoE?

  • Do we want it to include treaty change, or not?
  • Do we want the outcome to be binding on EU institutions, or not?
  • Compared to the ones listed by the EU institutions, do we want other topics/sectors/fields to be integrated in the discussion? Which ones?


B) Do we agree with any of the EP/EC/EUCO positions on the CoFoE?

  • If no, what do we propose? When? Where? How?
  • If yes, with which one? How do we deal with that? Should we just support it, or should we integrate it with our proposals as well?

When? Do we wait and see what EU institutions decide on the CoFoE mandate, or do we act NOW?

How? What kind of lobbying?  In which arena/institutional situation?

With who? Which institutional actors? EU Presidents? MEPs? Commissioners? Governments? National Parliaments?


C) What role for EU civil society organizations (CSOs)[1]? And for ordinary citizens?

  • Do we want CSOs and/or citizens to be on an equal foot with national governments and EU institutions? Or do we want CSOs and/or citizens to be the main drivers of the conference? Or do we prefer EU representatives to lead the conference?
  • How do we “summarize” proposals from CSOs and citizens? How can they come together?
  • What democratic practices? How many and which timing?

“Delocalized citizens’ assemblies” in the different Member States? CoFoE Plenary? Citizens’ Agoras? Youth Agoras? Citizens’ dialogues?

Or should we prefer participatory democracy tools? Or both?

What about sortition? Or do we prefer representative samples chosen among…who? And how do we choose them?


D) What role for online platforms?

  • How do we integrate their inputs in the CoFoE’s discussions and final outcome?
  • What balance between online platforms, citizens, CSOs, governments and EU representatives?


E) How do we deal with citizens’ proposals?

  • What if citizens and EU representatives disagree on the final outcome?
  • How do we want to deal with such issues? Who should have the last word?
  • What happens after the CoFoE? How do we institutionalize citizens’ participation?


SESSION 2: Participatory Democracy: strengthening existing instruments and ensure democratic innovation

A) What role for Participatory Democracy (vs representative democracy, RD)?

  • Should it stand above RD, complement it or have just an “advisory-but-non-binding” role?

How? Through which instruments/practices?

ECIs? EP petitions? New forms of participation, such as permanent online platforms, permanent but periodic Citizens’ Agoras, citizens’ assemblies…?


B) How can we improve existing tools?

  • By improving information on their existence and use?

Who should do it? EU Institutions? National Governments and Parliaments? Organisations? Ordinary citizens?

How should it be done? Through an increase of the related EU budget? Through an improved communication strategy? Run by who?

  • By making it easier to use such tools? How?

By lowering the amount of necessary signatures for an ECI?

By giving up on the ID requirement?

By improving EU institutions’ assistance in all phases of an ECI?

By not requiring registration to the EP platform to sign a petition?

  • By improving citizens’ knowledge on political issues tout court?

(In the hope that a more politically conscious citizen will be more likely to actively participate in the decision-making process)

  • What roles for the new contact points at national level?
  • What roles for CSOs at national, regional and local levels?
  • How to ensure efficient cooperation with the representations of the Commission? 


SESSION 3: Democratising the EU: from the reform of the Treaties to the reforms that can guarantee an EU more democratic, more sustainable and more free.

(Based on Dastoli’s proposals)

  • EU Constitution;
  • Full EU citizenship;
  • Direct election of the EC President;
  • Council decision-making: qualified majority instead of unanimity:
  • EU Council as “high chamber” representing the “Federated states”;
  • EP as “lower chamber” representing the people;
  • Transnational party system to develop a truly European political public sphere;
  • Full powers for the EP, including legislative proposals;
  • EU tax system;
  • Participatory EU budget, in collaboration with CSOs;
  • Pan-European referenda;
  • European information system/public service.

[1] Citizens and CSOs are two different concepts: the former refers to ordinary citizens, the latter refers to organized lobbies/trade unions/etc who represent social parties and claim to represent citizens as well, however, they are to be conceived in a representative framework and not in participatory one. CSOs fear that citizens movements/grassroot organizations may “steal” their influence on the EU decision-making process.

L'articolo di Simona è del 29 febbraio, non di oggi 2 marzo. E' precedente l'intervento di domenica 1 marzo sul Sole 24 Ore del prof Fabbrini che affronta lo stesso tema, la zavorra del Consiglio sulla questione del budget, rivendicando il potere/dovere del Parlamento. Parlamento che ritorna centrale anche nella proposta Dastoli. Non è invece così nel focus sulla democrazia partecipativa di eumans e Alemanno.

Questo giusto per rappresentare con correttezza e completezza le informazioni e proporre lo scenario delle proposte/visioni nella sua articolata pluralità.

Ho corretto il post in modo che rifletta l'effettiva tempistica. 
Se lo ritieni possiamo pubblicare una versione in inglese del tuo articolo sul sito in modo da aggiungerla agli spunti per i partecipanti (giá aggiunti altri sulla pagina di registrazione sul sito 

Chiederei anche a Marco di scrivere qualcosa o a chi di noi lo ritenga utile. 

Link diretto al commento

In risposta a di Virginia Fiume

Ho scritto e pubblicato su Eumans un nuovo articolo in inglese e l'ho inserito nella lista di lettura. Esprime un pensiero opposto a quello dei sostenitori della democrazia partecipativa quindi non l'ho firmato come Simona Bonfante (Eumans) ma come Simona Bonfante e basta.

Si intitola: Participatory democracy is a tool. European Democracy is the goal

Ciao a tutti, 

L'emergenza Coronavirus sta portando alla luce tutte le fragilitá dell'Unione Europea e l'urgenza di riforme. 

Metto qui di seguito la proposta di "convocazione" del Council on participatory democracy che si svolgerá ONLINE giovedi e venerdi. 

L'abbiamo sottoposta agli altri co-organizzatori. 

Integrazioni o meglio ancora post per il sito di Eumans sono ben accetti. 

Da domani dovremmo anche avere una card grafica da poter utilizzare per gli inviti. 



19th - 20th of March 2020

Concept - Invite - Participation Notes


On the 19th and 20th of March join the first self-convocated online assembly of European citizens and organisations to discuss the reforms needed for Europe now. And the means to achieve them.

The Coronavirus outbreak unveils all the fragilities of the European Union as we know it. And it calls urgently for a strategy to manage health, economics and welfare measures, civil protection, incentive for technology and research, guarantee of rule of law and fundamental rights.

Did you know that in 1984 the European Parliament approved the so-called “Spinelli Project”? It was a strategy to tackle epidemics and catastrophes. It was based on the concept of “politics of society”. Why did that project was never implemented? What citizens can do to push for the reforms needed? Which means are available?

Join on the 19th and 20th of March the 1st Meeting of the Council on Participatory Democracy. The meeting will be held entirely online to allow the maximum level of participation.

The need for reforms and a shift in the role of citizens wasn’t brought up by the Coronavirus. But now it is even more urgent. Which measures are urgent, which will be the mandate of the Conference on the Future of Europe, if it will happen, how can we trigger a process to ensure the strengthening and recognition of participatory democracy in the European Union. The 1st Council on Participatory Democracy is conceived as an open forum where individuals, organisations and networks can share their own objectives and ongoing proposals. 

The online meeting is meant to be the kick off of a long-term process. And together we can plan future appointments and actions to be carried on across the EU.

The 1st Meeting of the Council on Participatory Democracy is organised as a 2-half-days online conference. The conference will be held online. You will receive the information to participate and the details to login upon registration



THURSDAY 19th of MARCH - FROM 2 PM to 6 PM


First Session: The mandate of the Conference on the future of Europe and the role of the citizens in shaping the Conference process 


Second Session: Participatory Democracy: strengthening existing instruments and ensure democratic innovation

Third Session: Democratising the EU: from the reform of the Treaties to the reforms that can guarantee an EU more democratic, more sustainable and more free.

The online session will be facilitated so that all participants can have the opportunity to identify common goals, institutional and informal tools, and define together which actions can be carried on in coordination.



FRIDAY 20th of MARCH - FROM 9.30 AM to 1.15 PM   


The European Union should guide the management of the Coronavirus emergency.
It is not only about the coordination between Member States. Reforms are needed for the right to health for citizens, a sustainable economy and welfare, the access to the best resources in terms of research and innovation, the guarantee of fundamental rights.

Citizens and organisations across all Europe are using participatory democracy to push for reforms. What we can do together to use the emergency we all live in to make the changes happen. For today. And for tomorrow?

During the second online session we invite participants to focus on proposals around the right to health, welfare and social protection, economic reforms, and open science. However all political goals are bound together so we invite everyone with an expertise on migration, lgbt rights, ecology, civic artificial intelligence, interoperability of digital services, environmental policies, to join this facilitated dialogue.

If you want to propose a working group contact us using the registration form or send an email to



1st Meeting - 19th and 20th March - Online 


The committee that is organising the Council works in a transparent and open manner. We have online meetings every Thursday at 6.00 PM CET. 


If you want to join as a citizen or as an organisation fill this form or contact us -  




[Where did we start from:
This Council on Participatory Democracy is not a call that sparkled from the Coronavirus outbreak. Read why we called for it more than a month ago]

The Conference on the Future of Europe can be an immense opportunity or one of the most devastating illusions for the European project. 


For the past months, the European Parliament, the European Commission, the Council kicked off the process to define the context, the mandate and the mechanisms of a process that should last for 2 years and contribute to shape a renovated European Union. 


The Conference will start on the 9th of May in Dubrovnik. However, the lack of clarity in terms of the mandate, the impact on the EU Treaties and EU policies, the way how citizens will be effectively engaged is dazzling.


Since its announcement the Conference of the Future of Europe sparkled a positive effect in the European public sphere: open letters, platforms, calls for actions and proposals started to circulate across the borders of the member states. This political intelligence and will of activation cannot and shouldn't be dispersed in the creation of micro-clusters -  let's try and create what is missing: an assembly for citizens and civil society organisations to discuss their own role in the Conference on the Future of Europe and come up with proposals for the European Commission, the European Parliament and the Council.


With this goal in mind, we invite EU Citizens, grassroots groups and civil society organisations to self-convocate themselves online on the 19th and 20th of March for the 1st Meeting of the Council on Participatory Democracy 


The purpose of the meeting will be to present and discuss different proposals and ideas, rooted in years of activism and political actions. 


We call for all European citizens and organisations that put at the center of their daily action the full adoption of democratic instruments and the view of a democratic and sustainable Europe, where a fully functioning representative democracy and fully functioning participatory democracy are rooted in the respect of the rule of law. 


We hope you will want to be with us, bring your contribution and contribute to create a coordination to increase the impact we can have on the Conference on the Future of Europe and ensure that citizens are not left out in the process. At the same time, the Council can become an opportunity for defining long term goals and shared actions beyond the immediate urgency of the Conference of the Future of Europe. 


Let's use this historical moment to act together for real changes in the European Union and its democratisation.




Perspectives and readings


These articles and documents had been written by the co-promoters of the Council on Participatory Democracy and by the individuals and organisations who registered to attend. 

(to be continued thanks to your contributions…) 


List of initial promoters and participants of the 1st Meeting of the Council on Participatory Democracy

Want to join as a promoter and as a participant? The Committee is open - you can join as an individual citizen, as a member of your organisation, as an organisation. Register and decide how you want to get involved filling this form For more information: 

Documento guida per la sessione del giovedi 19 sulla democrazia partecipativa 

creato da Octavian e Sibilla prendendo tutte le proposte arrivate in queste settimane e le domande di confronto politico che ci devono accompagnare. LINK 
. Ovviamente con il nuovo taglio che abbiamo dato per lavorare proprio sull'emergenza Coronavirus (trovate tutto sul sito di Eumans "How EU can survive Covid-19 - 1st Meeting of the Council on Participatory Democracy" ) la prospettiva da adottare per l'elaborazione delle proposte sará diversa ma è comunque un documento importante. 

Bozza di Petizione al Parlamento Europeo per gestione pandemie e emergenze elaborata in collaborazione con Science for Democracy e Pier Virgilio Dastoli  LINK 

Articolo di Marco che stiamo provando a pubblicare su Euractiv e quindi non è ancora sul sito 

How can the EU survive COVID-19? 

When the going gets tough, democracy gets going

The coronavirus emergency is a turning point in the eternal debate on the future of Europe. The pandemic brings with it the risk of a nationalist fallback in Member States if the EU response proves impalpable; but it also offers an opportunity for Europe to become a proper democracy. Citizen participation can play a key role in this attempt.

Isaac Asimov, a prophetic sci-fi author, was the first to imagine a full-blown world government to fight a growing pandemic. We might be far from this intriguing scenario, but the quick spread of the coronavirus brings us back to an obvious truth: a phenomenon that knows no borders requires global government responses.

International and European Institutions can and must play a leading role in the fight to the virus, by doing much more than simply coordinating state action. But in order to avoid technocracies imposed on citizens, it is crucial to provide as much information and transparency as possible about their action, and to recognize the impulse that European and world citizens, by choosing to get involved, can give through policies that are up to the challenge.

At an international level, strengthening world research and guaranteeing open access to information for researchers everywhere represent strong defence mechanisms to be readier in case of new epidemics, if not to prevent them completely. These themes were at the centre of the Sixth World Congress for Freedom of Scientific Research promoted by the African Union at its Addis Ababa headquarters a couple of weeks ago.

But before international politics, the level on which we need to act is the European one. As of today, which measures have been put in place by the EU? Which bottom-up proposals could really strengthen their action?

The European Parliament has voted to give the EU the power to directly address pandemics. Not a week ago,but thirty-six years ago.

 It was the “Altiero Spinelli project”, named after one of the prominent figures of European federalism, who also gave his name to the main European Parliament building. The proposal included many other reforms that would have transformed the “European Community” in a federal and democratic institution. The “Spinelli project” was then rejected by national Governments, unwilling to give up competences even if they were needed to face new major global challenges.

Nowadays, COVID-19 is an addition to the list of issues having overwhelmed nation States: financial crisis, migration crisis, climate change, not to mention a number of conflicts or technological challenges to which Governments are responding in an isolated and mostly ineffective way.

European federalism is not “trendy” anymore. Talking about institutions, the subsidiarity principle, the EU budget: all this is boring, isn’t it? Maybe. But our present (not just our future) and our lives literally depend on it.

EU Treaties include some tools of civic participation: European Citizens’ Initiatives, Petitions to the EP, judicial remedies and an Ombudsman; but alone they are insufficient. Let’s unbury them to propose an immediate reaction to the COVID-19 crisis and structural reforms to prevent all this from happening again. By doing that, we would be better equipped to face the challenges that will come back as serious as ever once the virus is, hopefully soon, defeated.

Naturally, such a debate cannot ignore what has already been announced or enacted by the European Union to face the crisis: a dedicated team of European Commissioners responding to the outbreak of COVID-19; a 25 billion investment together with new flexibility margins from the European Commission; a 120 billion increase of quantitative easing from the European Central Bank.

All these measures, while brave and praiseworthy, risk not going anywhere beyond ordinary management of a crisis that deserves a far more ambitious political response from European Institutions.

Petitions and European Citizens’ Initiatives are the institutional instruments available online that can be used in times of quarantine, to mobilise on the core goals of the fight to the virus: real European politics on health and civil protection to guarantee a coherent reaction; implementing the UN guidelines on the right to science; creating a European financial lever to solve the economic crisis that will follow the health one.

Despite these instruments being weak and insufficient, today it is crucial to use every existing tool to create a serious and organised mobilisation of European citizens. But the EU should start by reforming its own mechanisms of participatory democracy to give them more decision-making power, as well as equal dignity in terms of financing when compared to electoral democracy.

To pick up this challenge, there is a need to create an open debate and bet on direct participation of European civil society in the choice of policies to deploy. 

Bad national politics made us all lose thirty-six years. Let’s try not to waste the dire straits of the coming days. 

Marco Cappato, former MEP (1999-2009) and Founder of Eumans



Nuovo titolo:
How EU can survive Covid19 - 1st Meeting of the Council on Participatory Democracy 
Link con aggiornamenti, programma e registrazione

Template Email - SOTTOLINEATE IN GRASSETTO PARTI DA MODIFICARE (da usare con chiunque riteniamo possa contribuire al dibattito e al confronto non solo sui temi e gli strumenti della democrazia partecipativa, ma sulle proposte politiche da adottare in questa fase di emergenza (sia nel merito dei punti critici dell'emergenza sia come opportunitá di riforma dell'UE): accademici, attivisti, europeisti, federalisti, ambientalisti, scienziati, giornalisti, .... 


SUBJECT: Against Covid19, a new Europe is needed - Invite for the 1st Council on Participatory Democracy 

Dear ..... 


My name is XXXX / We met at XXXX / I read your article on XXX

I am writing you to invite you to an important online appointment which will be held on the 19th and 20th of March online: "Against Covid19, a new Europe is needed - 1st Meeting of the Council on Participatory Democracy"

The meeting was originally called by a number of transnational organisations as an open forum for all organisations and European citizens willing to discuss the role of citizens in the Conference on the Future of Europe, the needs to strengthen and innovate participatory democracy, and the reforms needed to democratize the European Union. And most importantly identify shared goals and actions. 

At this link, you find all the information and preparatory materials. 

Now, with the Coronavirus outbreak as organisers, we feel it is even more important to gather together (ONLINE). Covid19 is adding to the list of issues having overwhelmed nation-States: financial crisis, the migrant crisis, climate change, not to mention a number of conflicts or technological challenges to which Governments are responding in an isolated and mostly ineffective way.

The emergency gives us a unique opportunity to identify the reforms needed to manage emergencies in the framework of right to science, sustainability and rule of law, activating and reinforcing the instruments of participatory democracy. Only a strong citizens mobilization can lead the European Institutions to take those decisions that cannot be relegated to the Member States and the electoral interests.

We would love to have you among the participants in the Council on Participatory Democracy, bringing your perspective, insights and contribution in particular based on the work you have done on XXXXX. 

In order to participate, you only need to register at this link and you will receive the link to join the online meeting and the possibility to send and receive preliminary materials. 

I really hope you will be able to be with us,


PS. The success and the impact of the Council on Participatory Democracy depend on the critical mass we will be able to create. Please, feel free to share this invite with any colleague, friend, organisation, you think might bring a contribution to the assembly.
Here you find also a sample tweet / whatsapp / telegram message you can use

Tweets and Messages 


Did you know in 1984 the #EU Parliament approved the Spinelli Project? A plan to tackle epidemics based on the "politics of society". 
What is it about? Let's discover it together! #CoronavirusEurope

Join the debate⤵



#Coronavirus puts Europe in front of its limit? Let's #Makethechange! 
Join the first online assembly of European citizens to discuss the reforms needed for Europe now.
Together, we can build a better democracy by using it. Sign in ⤵



Together, European citizens are facing the #coronavirus threat. 
Together, we can find the solutions to get out of this crisis. Together, we can build the Europe we need. 
Let's make the first step. 
Join our debate⤵  #NewEurope



Let's make Europe the epicenter of a DEMOCRATIC #Contagion.  Join our debate to define the #EU reforms needed to manage emergencies and reinforce the instruments of participatory democracy. 

Sign in➡


Ieri abbiamo testato di nuovo dopo un po' di tempo la trasmissione della riunione online su Facebook e Youtube. 

Grazie a Roberto e Michael per averci lavorato nel pomeriggio e prima della riunione. 

Metto qui un paio di punti da chiarire prima di riunirci domani e dopo per il Council on Participatory Democracy: 

1) Messaggio di lancio della diretta e titolo: con Restream la diretta parte su Facebook con un messaggio che ha "nome cognome - live" in base a chi sta attivando restream. A parte essere bruttino, ci fa perdere il primo gancio con le persone che ricevono la notifica della diretta. Su facebook il messaggio è meglio, ma comunque generico: Eumans Live. 
Abbiamo modo di impostare il messaggio che accompagna la diretta prima di cominciare? 

2) Social Media Engagement durante la diretta: serve che qualcuno tenga d'occhio sia Facebook che Youtube durante la diretta. Per due motivi:
- rispondere ai commenti, dare informazioni, aggiungere link per migliorare l'esperienza di chi segue ma anche per aumentare visibilitá del contenuto 
- verificare che l'audio e il video funzionino bene e non si fermino. Nel caso si fermassero, segnalarlo alla regia. 

3) Technical Chat: avere un signal per chi gestisce la diretta, i social, e la conversazione sul sito 

4) Iscrizioni a parlare e tempi: visto che l'evento dura due 8 ore tra giovedi e venerdi è utile che ci sia qualcuno che segna le iscrizioni a parlare e condivide anche link e material in chat 

Vi viene in mente altro? 

Grazie Gilla!

1) Ho appena verificato questa cosa, possiamo cambiare il testo di default a questo link:    prima che venga avviata la diretta in modo da far apparire subito il testo che vogliamo.

2) Per gli ultimi tre punti credo che dovremmo affrontare alcune questioni di comunicazioni interne e workflow... Magari possiamo affrontarne i dettagli oggi in riunione.

3) per ora non mi viene in mente altro.




Ciao a tutti, 
Oltre ai materiali realizzati ieri con Octavian e Diana (mail e tweet)

qui trovate in allegato anche le card per i social 

E qui un messaggio Whatsapp 

On THURSDAY 19th of MARCH (2 PM to 6 PM) and FRIDAY 20th of MARCH - (9.30 AM to 1.15 PM), join the first self-convocated online assembly of European citizens and organisations to discuss the reforms needed for Europe now. And the means to achieve them.
The Coronavirus outbreak unveils all the fragilities of the European Union as we know it. And it calls urgently for a strategy to manage health, economics and welfare measures, civil protection, the incentive for technology and research, the guarantee of rule of law and fundamental rights

:arrow_right:Click here for more information on the draft agenda and many other details:

Quella che stiamo vivendo è una peste, la prima nella nostra vita ma certo non la prima nella storia dell’umanità.Quando avvengono queste malattie catastrofiche c’è sempre nell’uomo la tentazione di attribuire il disastro a una colpa, ad un segno divino come se noi avessimo “peccato contro natura”.

Certo è suggestivo pensare che la Terra sia Gea, un organismo vivente che noi abbiamo disturbato troppo, e che ora si sta “riequilibrando” scatenando questa piaga. Ma pensateci, questo vorrebbe anche dire che la Terra ha guidato la scelta di quell’uomo che in Cina ha deciso di mangiare selvaggina (come la loro tradizione indica) o che sempre la Terra, ha ispirato l’uso dei mercati bagnati asiatici.

E’ un’idea molto suggestiva quella della colpa e della punizione ma quando vado nel dettaglio non riesco, per quanto mi sforzi, a immaginare la Terra agire in maniera così specifica.

Certo non sottovaluto il fortissimo impatto dell’uomo sul nostro pianeta, un impatto devastante che sta sconvolgendo un ecosistema ed, al di la del senso di colpa, sento come molti che è necessario cambiare e che questa cosa non è più procrastinabile.

Però lo voglio non perché sono stata punita, ma perché distinguo bene qual è il mondo e la società che vorrei avere. Vorrei che ci fosse una cura seria, una visione lungimirante vorrei dedicarmi a questo, ma sto vivendo come voi, in un periodo in cui c’è una peste e la peste ha una caratteristica comune con tutte le altre guerre: crea un mondo semplificato. Avere un riparo, il cibo e il necessario per sopravvivere è l’unica cosa che conta oggi.

E’ un’emergenza, va bene, io voglio tenere la distanza di sicurezza, per me e per gli altri, e non mi sento menomata dei miei diritti per questo

però una cosa è certa: questo periodo eccezionale finirà e anche presto, finirà tra qualche mese.  Attenzione non anni, mesi, mesi che non sono niente se consideriamo la durata media della vita di ognuno di noi.

Tra pochi mesi quindi il mondo semplificato, questo tempo eccezionale, finirà e tornerà la complessità.

La complessità che è la vita vera, la vita preziosa. Oggi vi dico che per me resistere è non cedere alla semplificazione e avere il tempo di prendermi cura anche di ciò che ora non è necessario ma che nel mondo di domani lo sarà.

Perché ci sveglieremo tra poco in un mondo terribilmente impoverito e forse, spero, per un poco consapevole dell’importanza della vita.

Ma in questo nuovo mondo, vi domando, pensate veramente che i nostri politici che non erano stati capaci prima di mettere nel giusto ordine le urgenze, saranno improvvisamente illuminati?

E noi che non eravamo in grado di sollevarci per difendere c’ho che amiamo ci risveglieremo capaci e armati di strumenti utili, così, magicamente, solo perché siamo stati presi a schiaffi dalla morte?

Credo che il vero lusso ora sia proprio non pensare solo alla sopravvivenza. Sicuramente abbiamo un’occasione, i disastri se non ti uccidono lo sono sempre, ma noi dobbiamo prepararci ora alla complessità  perché quella è la vita che vale la pena di vivere non questi tempi eccezionali e tristi.







Ciao Sibilla, sono d'accordo con i tuoi ragionamenti e sono sicuro che questo sia l'atteggiamento giusto da tenere.

L'unica cosa che mi viene in mente di poter aggiungere al ragionamento è che le grandi epidemie del passato non possono in alcun modo essere paragonate a questa. Basta pensare alle capacità igienico-sanitarie del medio-evo per capire perché non sono paragonabili. Il mio ragionamento parte invece dalla osservazione delle nuove malattie che sono venute alla luce negli ultimi anni: HIV, credo che provenisse dalle scimmie; aviaria, la malattia dei polli; influenza suina, mucca pazza... devo aggiungere altro? Ah, forse che gli allevamenti di bovini contribuiscono al 40% delle emissioni globali di metano e che la biodiversità animale sulla terra si è ridotta a dei minimi storici mai raggiunti prima?

Credo che non vi sia alcun dubbio che non esiste una forza divina che ci sta punendo per quanto siamo stati cattivi. La nostra terra non è la Gaia interconnessa e consapevole che Asimov raccontava nei suoi libri di fantascienza ma io spero che da questo momento di difficoltà potremo capire maggiormente quale è il nostro ruolo sulla terra e imparare a rispettare ciò che ci sta intorno, senza dominarlo perché pensiamo di essere l'unico animale che ha il diritto di vivere questa terra.

Io, da ragazzino, lo ammetto, ero rimasto suggestionato dal 2012, la fine del mondo secondo alcuni. La fine di un epoca secondo me, e anche secondo gli hippies degli anni '60 che nel musical Hair cantavano della era dell'acquario. Non sono un cospirazionista, non sono un fanatico di sette religiose strane, anzi sono ateo e razionalista ma credo che in qualche modo, anche se non ce ne rendiamo conto, stiamo già vivendo questa trasformazione (es: conoscenza globale attraverso internet).

Cmq sono orgoglioso di far parte di questo gruppo perché penso anche io che dopo questo periodo dovremo ripartire e vivere la complessità della vita.

Sono convinto che i nostri sforzi non saranno vani e spero che riusciremo a trovare in noi quella capacità di resilienza che ci potrà far trovare la strada giusta da seguire.


A tra pochissimo e buona giornata


Grazie Sibilla e Stefano. 
Una ventata di poesia. 
È stato strano il Council oggi. Il nostro Council fatto di 75 persone che si sono incontrate online in un giovedi di fine inverno. 

E di alcune decine che ci hanno seguiti sui social. 

è stato emozionante. Piccolo, microscopico, ma emozionante. Non farà probabilmente notizia. Ma ho la sensazione netta che siamo riusciti a mettere insieme alcune complessità interessanti. E i rivoli di questa complessità possono diventare qualcosa. Anzi. Sono qualcosa. 

I registrati all'evento hanno ricevuto i diversi materiali che abbiamo preparato. Il pluri-citato documento di Sibilla e Octavian è diventato il documento collaborativo che avevamo immaginato durante le riunioni del martedi. (modificabile solo da chi sta partecipando all'evento. 

Senza il Cuore che abbiamo messo qui in questi mesi non avremmo ora 25 pagine scritte da persone che si sono conosciute oggi sulla base della convocazione - nata dall'evento di Dicembre 2020 a Bruxelles. 

Se qualcuno ha un po' di tempo 

Poi ci doteremo degli strumenti. Ma il primo strumento siamo noi :) 

Buona notte a tutti! 

Intervento Marco Cappato - 1st meeting of the Council on Participatory democracy 

- the idea of creating a network with quasi-institutional name as "Council on participatory democracy" came after a first meeting in Brussels in november, when it came clear to us that many different group, working on many different issues, where united in trying to activate the tools of citizens participation. We thought it would have been useful to have a kind of neutral platform for sharing of experience but also for exploring the possibilities of common proposals.

This is also the reason why with Virginia Fiume we divided the agenda in two parts: today, discussing about how to reform the tools (Conference for the future of Europe, instruments of participation, the EU Treaties themselves) tomorrow discussing about proposal on which to activate on the merit: rule of law, environment. freedom, rights, social justice, science and, of course, the current coronavirus crisis.


- the coronavirus crisis is of course dramatically changing political priorities as it is changing individual lifes.  We decided still to mantain the occasion of this debate becasue we are convinced thar the need of a Europe in which ctizens particpation in particular, and liberal democracy more in general, are much more needed in a moment of emergency. More than that, if you look to european history, we see that th very funding of the European community was a reaction to the tragedy of war war II, and every leap forward to european integration was a reaction to a challenge of that time. This means that also this crisis could mean a lot to Europe: it could provoke a new wave of fear and nationalism, or it could trigger a new awarness of how further integration and fostering of european democracy is needed. In our organisation - Eumans- we prepared a draft petition to the European Parliament -hoping that the Ep will not shut down- asking for some ugent measures of coordination, security, emergency management and civil protection but also structural reforms at european level (for direct competences on health policies) and global level (for further empowerment of the Wolrd Health Organisation).


- as organisers of this meeting, what we are proposing to you is not to give up with the planned discussion on the Conference of the future of Europe, the participatory tools (petions, european citizens initiatives, the possibility of citizens assemblies) and about the reform of the Treaties. Some of you could consider it a mistake, as if we pretended to consider the current crisi as "business as usual". It is not, and nobody could nourish such an illusion. But let's see it from a different angle. What is apparently useless during an emergency, if we are not disposed to abandon, to dimiss it, so we have to reform it.

- It is true for participatory democracy: petions, ECI, the ombudsman: there is nothing that can be really effective now. So what? Either we accept to abandon particpatory democracy -as if it were a luxury good to be sold during hard time- either we shoild fight to defend it, to activete, to ue it.

- it is true for democracy: the European Parliament will suspend its activity because it is useless in a time in which heads of governments are taking vital decisions in teleconference (closing borders, arguing on medical equipments or financial aid)? Or we should ask for a straordinary plenary session, partially in video conference, to have a real first european debate before public opinion about all the main aspects of the crisis.

- What is apparently useless during an emergency, if we are not disposed to abandon, to dimiss it, so we have to reform it. it is true also for the European Union in itself.


This why I think is perfeclty adequate to mantaind our agenda, to go through the very specific points that are sumarized in the working document prepared by Sibilla Barbieri and Octavian Lazean. It is not a distraction. We are not talking about things that are made irrelevant by coronavirus, we are talking about goals that become more needed now than before.


Piervirgilio Dastoli will explain how the Altiero Spinelli Project voted by the European Parliament in 1984 would have given Europe the necessary powers to face a pandemia. But national governments missed that opportunity, as they missed the opportunity of the SARS pandemia to radically reform powers and rules.


The meeting of today and of tomorrow morning is a first effort in order non to miss this opportunity too.


Appunti presi da Marco durante Frst Council on Participatory Democracy  

MILANESE (France): closing of the borders, financial crisis. It is up to citizens to find a way to connect to eachother.

MARSILI (Palermo): large scale trasnformation is possible. Collective optimism for change. Italy demonstrates it is possible

Martin PAIRET: (Berlin): citizen mobilization to complement the health system. Lot of hope.

DASTOLI: EU competences. Lisbon Treaty: health competences only "supporting Member states". art 168 health, civic protection, solidariety, EU acted too late and too little. We have to think also to what will happen after the virus, for economic and socila policies at european level: EUROPEAN BUDGET. Conference on the futur of Europe: to address a CAHIER DE DOLEANCE, COMPETENCES, CONSTITUENT PROCESS

FRASSONI: to concentrate about the URGENT ISSUES. a EUROPEAN STRATEGY is missing. It is completely useless to close internal borders, the EP should MEET,

Roberto GOIA (voters wthout borders): less solidarity during a crisis. Political rights should be addressed.

Sibilla BARBIERI: we, activists, need TOOLS. To devolp an OFFICIAL PLATFORM by the EP as a new way to discuss european politics.

Fernando Shiranda (Tilt, Greens, Brussels): no closing borders; economic support


Council on the future of Europe

MARSILI: not just a financial crisis; it will not be enough to pour liquidity. Massive investments are needed, but the structure of the EU are not able. Divergent path from north and south. One the EU risks a breakdown it will appear surreal talking about transnational lists. The evidence of inadecuacy can be transformed in an asset. Two-speeds approach 1-immediate 2-medium term transformation. Save the conference from its surreality. From "within" and from "outside". We need to be ready to a certain agonism of action: i.e. "proeuropean democratic contestation", maybe an "alternative conference" in 2022 if the official conference is failing.


Participatory democracy

Lorenzo MINEO: let's frame all the proposal through institutional tools, such as petitions

Jesse COLZANI (Good lobby): initiative for a coordinated EU action on covid19. MEP receive a lot of communication from citizens, much less from civil society. Tools available, most of them are used to legitimize an action already taken by the EU institution. No right to initiative.

MIchele FIORILLO (CIvico Europa): decidim (and much more)

Julian G. (Volt): we have an MEP

Federica MARTINI (Cesue): civic education for young students (citizens don'y know the EU). Let's use the Conference on the future of Europe for a new constitutional pact, for a european res-publica with federal framework.

Piervirgilio DASTOLI: the Conference will be without capacity to deliver. Marsili spoke about the European people conference, imaginated by Spinelli, in a moment in which the EP was not elected. We have to ask the EP to assume this constituent responsabiity.

Robert GOIA: we should addres not just our present situation, but also the future. Recession is likely. Consituttional reform should be legitimized by public opinion. Online environment, platforms,... We need the european diaspory more involved, allowing european citizens to vote in the EU referendums.

Tommaso POCHI: EU risks extintion, mal comune mezzo gaudio, massive measures to relaunch european economy will be needed

Iga KAMOCKA (Warsaw) : greate job! Love the petition. Conference will be challenging. European education of citizens. Example fro the EU institutions is needed. EU people have poor knowledge about Europe. People are scared. Fake news. Podcast (in polish). Keyboard warriors. MEPS are easy to reach.

BONFANTE: state of police, urgent petition

Treaties change MILANESE: let's think about afterwards: 5 Treaties reform chapters 1. health policies, protecting the european way of life; 2. close of its external borders is self-defeating: rebalance of external affairs and internal affairs; 3. economy: eurobonds; 4. social pillar; 5. democratic reinforcement: no secret meetings 

Antonio ARGNZIANO (Young federalist): the iterngovernamental system is not working. We need european resources for the EU budget, connecting with the 5years term of the Commission

ZAQUINI: swiss model, direct democracy

Franco LEVI: Europe is not enough. The word!!

Samuele NANNONI: to have a federal europe is not enough, because ordinary democracy is not enough not even in nation States. We need citizens assemblies at the european level. The European parliament in Strasbourg to convene european citizens.

Massimiliano NESPOLA: (l'ho perso)

Patrizia POZZO: Fed and BCE don't know what to do. China is not a doctor, but a patient as well. Let's use current treaties, trasparently and in a correct way. Tomorrow we get into politics.

GOIA: globalization adjustment fund [non ho capito bene]

Marco FERRARO (Europa Repubblica): Let's apply the Treaties!! Principle of subsidiarity could aready be used. European citizenship.

Corentin (french citizens movement): our manifesto: renewing of political representation, only one mandate; only local candidate; replace the Senate with a randomly selected assembly; impartial justice.

(...) let's transform us in a "citizen Council"

CAPPATO: first reform: use it; virtual conference for the future of Europe; information (amendment to the EU budget); Budgetary reform (carbon pricing).



Questi sono solo alcuni appunti serali - serve un pochino di tempo per far decantare e lasciar sedimentare idee e spunti, compensando con l'urgenza dell'emergenza tra salute e stato di diritto. 

sul canale youtube ci sono le registrazioni della prima e della seconda giornata  (domani archiviamo tutto sul sito, se qualcuno vuole dare una mano a "indicizzare" i contenuti per sentire i singoli interventi è meraviglia :)) 

Qui il testo della seconda revisione in cui Lorenzo Mineo ha cercato di integrare gli spunti del Consiglio nella Petizione al Parlamento Europeo che è stata la base della discussione nella seconda giornata e che ci siamo dati l'obiettivo di depositare prima della Plenaria "Online" della settimana prossima 

Qui TUTTI gli appunti collaborativi, partiti dal documento curato da Sibilla e Octavian, e poi gestiti da Octavian e Diana durante la due giorni 

Qui gli interventi miei e di Lorenzo durante la riunione pubblica organizzata dall'Associazione Luca Coscioni

Domani arrivano gli appunti "strutturati" ma se intanto chi ha seguito ha spunti e appunti a caldo, aggiungiamoli qui sotto. 

Non faccio la lista dei ringraziamenti per chi ha contribuito al Consiglio. Ma ci tengo a dire che si è trattato di un percorso che ha messo insieme il lavoro di mesi, le riunioni online, le ricerche sulla Conference on the Future of Europe, i punti di confronto, lo stimolo a capire come trasformare questo appuntamento alla luce dell'emergenza, gli inviti fatti, i documenti preparatori, la gestione dei social e della diretta e della creativitá.... 
Questo piccolo grande passo che abbiamo fatto è il risultato del contributo di tutti. 

Gli appunti di Marco 


MARSILI:  global interdependence. Weakness of the World Health Organisation. Green Deal: ecological transformation of production system. Not to replicate previous packages of backing unsustainable industries. Concrete proposal: try to construct with other organisations a large appointment in autumn in Berlin (the full economic impact and limiti of EU institution will become apparent): large scale democratic forum-conference.

MINEO: petition

MILANESE: vaccine in the public domain

FRASSONI: petition to the EP, put more emphasis on the competences of the EP (skeptical on the global part) art 48 refeorm of the Treaties, more precise on the economic side.

DASTOLI: let's concentrate on the european budget: the EP has power concerning the financial framework: let's ask the Commission to withdraw the text proposed by the commission on 2 may 2008 and present a new one taking in to account the green deal and the covid19 emergency and the the need of federal budget based on own resources. I am not that a petition can ask the parliament to start the procedure of article 48 of the Treaty (the convention is a body very weak and than going to a intergovernmental conference). Economy is very related to the rule of law because it concerns also solidarity during the emergency (es. concerning the minorities, poor peolple, inmigrants) and democracy after the emergency (law adopted during emergencies could remain after the emergency).

FRASSONI: hooks: conference on the future of Europe should include Treaties change; The EP can begin the process of reforming the Treaties (art. 48), we should ask the EP to use this instrument. We need to re-open the discussion about the reform of the Treaties!! On the economic part I sent some proposals.

DASTOLI: I agree to open a way to modify the Treaties, but the budget decision is urgent. Two different petitions: one on the budget, the second on the conference on the future of Europe.

PERDUCA: Treaty change, right to science in time of emergency. We are not providing the people with the best political decisions based on facts. UN General Comment. World congress. Bill and Melinda Gates Fooundation proposals: cooperation and condivision, safe and free. Ready to civil disobedience. Science should be enrolled as the best allied of democracy.

BARBIERI: petition is a very weak tool. [poi ho perso]

ZAQUINI: is it correct to present different topics in one petition? Maybe it is better to have many? And maybe also an ECI?

TROVATO: right to housing as a part of social network

NANNONI: democracy can be done also without meeting in person. Project of virtual citizen assembly.

MINEO: Citizen assembly. Rule of law: we need public policies to address this emergency, proper open debate

PARMENTIER: emergency degree. Constitutional Treaty plea is not the most urgent. I would concentrate more on the economic and social issue. (project od resolution for the green group). We should not forget the issue of national budgets. EU should use all its powers to take exceptional measures, under parliament control. A meeting of any kind around the 9th of may: good occasion to plea for changes in the Treaties.

Dario FE': petition: why we are doing this? We should state very clearly it is a pandemic event, it can'y be a national problem, is a world problem,

EVI: conference on the future of Europe: last opportunity for the EU. More participatory emocracy and power to the EP, trasparency. Petition procedure.

Beatrice COVASSI: crisis = opportunity. Stop EU blaming game. Concerns about institutional COMMUNICATION. Commission: new website online to explain emergency measures. Strong encouragement and support to particpation of citizens

BENIFEI: worried about participatio. Economy: to use the ESM. Renewing the EU through the federalist initiative


CAMPANELLA: agree with Dastoli for Parliament as contituent assembly;